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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 14:02:23 -0400 From: Dan Shupack shupac@kong.uu.net Subject: Va. Beach Review - HOT! (long) Howdy pholks, Well, just got back at 4:30 AM from the show last night, and finally got a chance here at work to share a few thoughts about the tour opener last night at the GTE Ampith. in Va. Beach, so here goes. In a nutshell, hold on to your hats, people, cuz it's going to be an AMAZING tour!! This is no understatement - the boys are ON right now, and if you've decided to give up on Phish in light of BB or the average tours in '96, well, you're a MORON! :^) Really, no joke, the boys started off the tour last night with a real bang, and they're happy as hell to be playing back here in the states. The energy was so there as well, with the jonesin' crowd firing up the band and vice versa! Well, enough with the cliches, let's talk about the show. First off, this is my only show of the tour until the Went, so I was particularly psyched as all hell to see Phish, knowing this would be my only show for a whole month, and a good excuse to take a 3-day vacation at the beach. THE SCENE: Well, needless to say, I spent alot of time soaking up the rays and relaxing, and alot of phans had the same idea as well - I saw tons of heads on the beach all weekend mingled in with the millions of tourists/families, definitely not your typical beach scene - so you knew something phishy was in the air (OK, enough of the terrible cliches already!). So, after the weekend, everyone was chilled and well-prepared to see the show. The venue itself, GTE Ampith., is your typical summer concert shed, there's really not much more to say about it. The security was AWFUL, though. Cops on horses were riding around giving tickets to vendors left and right, and there were undercover cops as well. Saw one bro get faceplanted in the gravel as he was being cuffed by 3 undercovers for god only knows what petty crime. Inside the venue as well, the security people were dicks, I saw two youngish fellows get ID'ed in the middle of the 1st set, and when they failed to show any the steroid-infused, meathead security guard dumped there beers right there and hauled them off to the security tent. Some people just take there job way too fucking seriously. Oh well. Anyhow, the weather outside got progressively gloomy as the show neared, and we were treated to a couple of nice showers to cool off the crowd right before the show started. The atmoshere with the fans was electric - everyone was hooting and hollering in anticipation of the first stateside Phish show in months. Inside, the placed was packed. For once I was happy to be in the pavilion with thunderstorms threatening outside. The band came out charged as hell and broke into the first set: Ghost, Dogs Stole Things, Piper, Dirt, Ginseng Sullivan, Bathtub Gin>JAM>Explanation of the new songs, Char. Zero Quick notes: Fish's head is indeed shaved, and he wasn't sporting a dress either! Definitely the end of an era? Also, Mike was playing on his new Modulus graphite bass. GHOST I missed the opening lyrics section of the song due to my pea-sized bladder and the mulitiple Bass Ales I swilled in the lot (god bless those vendors! :^), so I actually walked in right at the beginning of the jam. What a fantastic new song, with an upbeat and funky jam segment that goes on for 20 min. or so. Definitely the new Tweezer-esque song (BTW,it appears the Tweezer is in the freezer, unfortunately), Trey was all over the jam, very melodious playing. Honestly, Trey was as fired up as I've ever seen him at any show, moving around all over the place as he jammed, and doing his patented swaying/dancing (kinda like doing the Charleston, y'know). Mark my words, this song is gonna be a centerpiece of alot of great sets to come. You'll just have to hear to know its potential. Jam comes to halt, and they break into: DOGS STOLE THINGS I really, really love this song (thanks Brian P. for all the great new song preview clips!), and was psyched to hear it live. It just has an incredible grooviness to it with great harmonies by Trey and Page, and good short little solos by them as well. PIPER This ones hard to describe, has a feel kind of similar to Taste, I think because of that uplifting piano sounds. Very quick lyrics sung in rounds my Trey, Page, and Mike, so fast in fact that I couldn't make out any of the words! Interesting song though, I like it! DIRT Beautiful mellow tune with an overlapping chorus sung by both Trey and Page. One thing evident about these new songs is their complex vocal arrangements, which they execute effortlessly w/o missing a beat instrument-wise. This ain't no kiddy stuff for sure! The Trey solo at the end is very beautiful and inspired, typical ballad-style. GINSENG Alright! Now we're starting to get into the oldies! Very typical version, the bluegrass got everyone on their feet in preparation for... Note: Somewhere in the set, the storm died down and a beautiful rainbow appeared over the lawn, which was clearly visible from the stage area. Perhaps this lent some inspiration to the band? GIN YESSSS! The place absolutely erupted, me and my friend were jumping up and down, hi-fiving everyone around us. Right off the bat, Page was all over the ivories, I think he hit just about every key on that thing in the wacked-out intro part. No Rhaps. in Blue tonight - this was just pure silliness! The jam was exceptional, Trey was moving all over his territory, just loving the jam, Page hit all five keyboards at least once during the jam, which developed into an extremely funky perma-groove a la James Brown. This perma-groove went on for a good 7 minutes or so, with great start-stop action in the jam, that featured Trey jumping up and down instead of counting off the 4 beats before the pauses. Finally, in the middle of the groove Trey just started talking to the crowd, and said he was going to explain new songs for us. Ghost was the one with the long, funky jam, Dogs Stole Things was the bluesy number which apparently is about how your pets (dogs and cats) come onto your bed in the middle of the night and steal your soul. "So watch out for that!" (ala Red Rocks 93 w/ the iguana!). He then said how they did it to him once, but they obviously haven't stolen Fish's soul (this as Fish was still pumping out the funky James Brown groove) Very funny! He said dirt is one of his new favorites to play, and I don't remember what he said about Piper. He then remarked how good it was to be back in the states, and started a little "USA! USA!" chant. I tell ya it was better than the 4th of July! Anyhow, he said they were gonna do one more song before the break, which was: CHARACTER ZERO I don't know what all the fuss is over this song, it just rips, and this version was no exception. Trey was on fire, just wailing in the upper reaches of his 'doc. The little vocal jam that is normally a capella was just sung at the end of the jam, so the ending really wailed. Overall, a short set - barely an hour I believe, but the band (Trey especially) was so fired up I could have sworn it was 'ween or NYE. Very tight overall, I'd definitely give the set an above average 6.5 (great as far as first sets go) on the Jordan scale on account of the pure energy of the set. I'll admit I'm biased cuz I really like the new songs and it was so great to hear them live, but the groovy Gin, Ghost, and Zero combined w/ the humor really made this a first set to acquire. On with the second... Basically, the whole place was totally abuzz after the first set. We knew this was no ordinary "warm up show" like most tour openers, so big things were expected for the second half of the show. Man, did they deliver. Wolfman's>Magilla, Hi-hat intro>Birdland tease>Bowie, Wading in the Velvet Sea, Theme*>Jam*>Wackiness*>Funky Bitch*, Slave E: Lovin' Cup *-w/ Leroi Moore of DMB WOLFMAN'S> Woohoo! After hearing the 3/1 Hamburg version and hearing all about how great they've been playing this all summer, I was incredibly psyched to hear it. Sounded just like I expected, I had a smile about a mile wide during this one. The jam went on a little while very similarly to the 3/1 version, but worked its way into... MAGILLA!! Holy shit! They've revived this one nearly to its original jazzy glory! Unlike the 2/26 Stuttgart version inside SOAMule (which was only a Magilla TEASE, BTW), this was a full-on version. Very smooth transition from Wolfman's, and a nice, smooth Magilla at that! Great to hear them doing the jazz standard thing once again. BOWIE The highat started up with some dark noodling from Trey, Mike, and Page, which worked its way into a full-on tease of Birdland, which in case you didn't know is a song by jazz mega-group Weather Report which was very popular back in the seventies (props to my man Jaco P.). They pretty much played out the first minute or two of the song, and I almost thought they they were gonna do the whole song until they sunk back into the highat intro, which promptly went into Bowie. A great jam that was mellow for the most part, which some exceptional melodious noodling from Trey. The last minute or two of the jam right before the trilling just cooked (imo what make or breaks a good version of Bowie), and the trills were executed cleanly. VERY good version! WADING IN THE VELVET SEA I like this one, even though for some strange reason it reminds me of Air Supply or that song "Total Eclipse of the Heart" :^P . Don't ask me why, I guess that cheese factor is kind of there, but once again Trey makes the song with some absolutely breathtakingly powerful soloing. All of you who said Trey has no soul or beauty in his jamming, shame on you! Just listen to this tune. THEME> Another tune I was glad to here since they shed all the spacey crap in the jam segment from 95/96 versions. Perfectly executed throughout, with a typically good, uplifting jam. Then, right before the buildup to the "From the bottom, from the top" part, they just hold on the groove, and out comes Leroi, the sax player from DMB. It was really unmistakeable who it was, as he had his trademark shades on. He came out on the baritone sax and started jamming along to the theme groove, which became quite groovy in itself. After a couple of minutes, things started getting REALLY weird. Out comes the production guy with Leroi's soprano sax and hand it to him. So now Leroi's playing with both sax's strapped to him. The tech guy then comes out with Trey's backup guitar, then brings out Mike's old bass, so now Trey, Mike, and Leroi all have two instruments, which they proceed to noodle with, along with Mike using his little foot-bell pedal. Just absolute craziness! Then as if things couldn't get any weirder, the tech guy brings out a third guitar for Trey, so now he's completely covered with guitars, and he just starts banging on the strings as though he's playing the bongos or something, which really made some, uh, interesting sounds. Looking over to the side, Page and Fish both had decided to join in the fun, so Page was playing the B3 and Piano with his hands while reaching back with his foot and banging on the Fender Rhodes. He then started make really EVIL sounding noises on the Mellotron which might have sent some tripping people into cardiac arrest! On the other side, Fish was jamming away with 2 sticks in each hand, which I think eventually became 4 in each hand. It was a definite WTF! moment. The craziness continued, as Trey laid down the guitars and went over and started banging on Fish's cymbal's, then he started swinging the 'doc in the air, producing some cool spacey sounds. Finally the ZANINESS petered off, and they busted into FUNKY BITCH Of course, the standard song for guest appearance had to be played(no complaints here!). This version was great, with smokin' soloes passed between Trey and Leroi. Trey thanks Leroi and gives him a big fat hug, and then starts into... SLAVE It couldn't have ended more perfectly than this. Very good, typically gorgeous version with extended milking of "the note" at the end. Seemed longer than average. Great ending to a jaw-dropping first-show-of the tour. E: LOVIN' CUP Very short version, no doubt because of the 11:00 curfew, but it what an appropriate closer for a great show. What a beautiful buzz!! Overall, another fantastic set, though I don't know if the Wackiness following Theme will translate well onto tape. However the musical merits of the rest of the set certainly stands on its own. I'll give it a 8 due to the What the Fuck! factor, but probably only a 7.0 from the standpoint of the musical quality in itself. So overall, I give the show a 7.5, an unprecedented AMAZING first show of the tour. And this is just the beginning! I don't know how the hell they'll top themselves (although you know they always manage to ;^) I would just personally like to thank the band for coming back and kicking our asses right off the bat, and to all you people on tour - LUCKY BASTARDS! For all those with any doubts whatsoever about the band, fear not - they are playing hotter than ever right now! Please see as many shows as possible if you have the means, cause judging by the opener, this tour is gonna SMOKE all the previous ones. Peace! Shoop P.S. Of course, I just couldn't end this lengthy review w/o a shameles grovel for this show - if you have the means of acquiring the tapes, I would love a copy! ----------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 19:00:34 -0400 From: Paul Gordon pgordon@bellatlantic.net Subject: 7/21/97 Other notes on the show: The venue is a basic shed and traffic in and out of the parking lots was smooth with only a small back up. Pre show vending was minimal - there didn't seem to be a row of vendors. Nitrous vending was also minimal. No large drum circles. The average age, as usual, was young, maybe 18-20 with only a few people who looked over 25. Too bad, the scene didn't have the family vibe of that other band, maybe it will grow as tours go on. Mike was zipping around in that golf cart before the show - its always fun to be drifting/stumbling down some row in the lot and see him tool by in that thing with some crazy smirk on his face. A bunch of thunderheads rose up over the shed about an hour before the show and there was a nice lightning show as the storm approached. Right before the show it rained for about half an hour but it cleared up as the music started. During the first set there were two rainbows over/behind the venue. A very cool moon rose behind the crowd in the second set. Mood at the gate was fairly electric, and the security was laid back, not much searches and they let me bring half finished beer in. Security was loose on the field - no Nazi techniques by the staff (thanks!) and some fattys were floating around. The band kicked out trademark jams with some cool teases. Miles Davis' "Bitches Brew" between sets (Halloween?? - that would be a mindbender!). They cleared the lots out quickly after the show - the lot was nearly empty in about an hour. Again as before the show, minimal vending and nitrous. Overall, a pleasant start to the summer tour, but not an intense, kickdown, wide-open scene. See you all in Maine! Peace. ------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 01:18:23 +0100 From: Brett HartzfeldSubject: 7-21-97 Hey sorry it's a late review but I just got back from Atlanta today and needless to say I took my time coming home to PA. I Ghost, Dogs steal things, Piper, Dirt, Ginsing sulivan, Bathtub gin, Character zero, II Wolfman's brother, Magilla, David Bowie, Wading in a velvet sea, Theme from the bottom, Funky Bitch, Slave E: Loving cup We pulled into the lot just as they were starting sound check, my friends wanted to check out the lot and I wanted to hear some jams. At sound check I heard a sweet new jam called Twist Around (nice Page solo they played this like 3 times) and Ginsing. Ghost- nice long jam song it makes a great opener. (rainbow, not a song, a side note it rained right before they came on as they played ghost they brought out the sun and a huge rainbow appeared behind us) Dogs Steal Things- Funny concept as Trey pointed out that your Dogs and Cats don't do too much during the day and at night they try to steal your soul. Piper- Don't recall Dirt- lyrics remind me of it being a brother of Theme Ginsing- a sweet jam to hear down south or any time Character Zero- starting to really get the energy going. II Wolfman's- This is when I started to dance up a storm. I'm sure I will enjoy first set more when I get the boots. I say this song was the highlight for me. Magilla-mellowed out, danceable Bowie- Sweeeeeeeeeet although the first couple of times through I don't think Trey said DavidBowie? Velvet Sea- Kind of had a Bouncin like chorus You will reconize it when you hear it Theme- Had a nice suprise at the end when Leroy the sax player for DMB came out. Then they gave Trey two more guitars, Mike another bass, Fish about four more sticks, Leroy a clarinet, And add Leo jammin on all fours it was DANK. Funky bitch- nice jam Slave- great way to end second set. E: loving cup My friend called this one I was hoping for Harry! The cops were in a rush to get everyone out of there asap but I still managed to sell 45-50 grilled cheeses. Y>E>M> Hartz --------------------------------------------------- From: mcgrupp@vt.edu (Jeremy Ferguson) Subject: Va Beach Story/Review (Long) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 22:47:45 GMT Just a little background info before I get started so you know where I'm coming from... I've only been to 2 shows before I did the Va beach>Atl run. They were Hampton and Charlotte last fall, neither one an extraordinary show. I have about 200 hours of phish on tape, and about 300 hours of other stuff (mostly Dead). Thanks to Charlie's Tape Weed, I had already heard the 6/25/97 Lille show. My friend Jon had a copy of the 7/1/97 show that I also heard before the show. We left Blackburg, VA (home of Virginia Tech) around 11:00 AM. The trip should've only been about 5 hours. We figgured 8 hours was PLENTY of time, boy were we wrong. Traffic came to a complete stop on 64 outside of Richmond and we sat for like 30 minutes. Finally we decided (after we saw lots of others do it) we'd turn around and backtrack to the last exit. We managed to find our way back to the highway a few exits later. We had to do the same thing near Williamsburg (though we headed off as soon as we saw the stop.) There was crazy traffic crossing the bridge heading into Va Beach, also. We got to our campground around 6:00, set up our tents as fast as possible and raced to the venue. We parked our car around 7:00. My girlfriend had her ticket at will call, so we headed that way. (thanks for the announcement of the extras, BTW Shelly :) I arrived at my seat in near the back of the pavilion on Page's side just as the band was coming on the stage. I recognized Ghost right away. I seemed to be one of the only people in my section who had heard it (or any of the new ones for that matter.) I was pretty happy to hear this after hearing the Amsterdam Ghost and hearing about all of the 20+ minute ghosts. They only stretched this one about 15 minutes, but what better opener could you have than a 15 min. funk jam?? The beginning of Dog Stole Things sounds EXACTLY like Mound. This fact spurred a couple of clap alongs at the beginning until the clappers figgered out that it was the wrong song ;) This is a nice little Bluesy song with some pretty cool lyrics. As Trey told us later, it's about dogs and cats coming during the night and stealing our souls. Piper is a semi-composed sounding song that starts real slow and builds waaay up with lots of fast lyrics and then slows back down. Everyone seemed pleased to hear a familiar tune when the boys broke into Ginseng. Fun song, what else can you say?? I was really happy to hear my first Bathtub, and this one was no slouch. Page really slammed the keys during the opening. After the lyrics, there was some crazy ass breakdown, the drums during this were VERY cool. It then went lots of different places, and I could have sworn there was a bit of a Mind Left Body jam. Reading other people's opinions and thinking back, this is probably what other people called the Drowned tease. It was great to hear Trey so obviously excited about being back in the States (USA!! USA!!), he seemed like he was having so much fun all night, dancing around and smiling real big and everything :):) It was cool to hear Trey introduce the new songs. He told us they would play one more then take a break. I could feel a Character Zero coming on at that point and I was right. Fun song to dance and headbang to, some nice rock n roll. The set was only about 60 minutes or so, I guess they were saving up for set II! The highlights were the Ghost jam and the Bathtub jam. My girlfriend had been blessed with seats way off to fish's side about 25 rows back, and she was kind enough to switch tickets with me, so I had a dramatically different viewpoint for set II. I met some cool girls that were sitting behind me, but I was sitting next to one of those obnoxious guys who turns to you every song and says "man this is great," though it was mostly warranted during this set :) A guy behind me called the Wolfman's opener, though I was thinking DWD or 2001 or something. After hearing the Hamburg wolfman's I was pleased to hear a nice funked out version. This wasn't as long as the 3/1 version, but it was very kewl. The segue into magilla was perfect, Trey playing the Magilla theme right on top of the funk jam. This Magilla was definately not a standard version, very jammed out, with everyone taking solos (MIKE!!!! took the longest solo.) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've NEVER heard Magilla taken out of it's basic form like it was this evening. During the intro to Bowie, the guy next to me thought he had his Maze that he was wishing for, but I was thinking Bowie all the way. This intro was very extended, a bit of jamming from everyone, a bit of a tease from trey (though I had no idea what the tease was at the time...I knew it was there.) The actual jam section of the Bowie was pretty average (great, nothing experimental, though.) Velvet Sea is a nice break song, I had to sit down. There was a wierd noise coming from Trey's delay during the first few minutes of the song. Theme has been getting to be a really good song, lately, but there has been NOTHING like what we saw tonight. The lyrics segment was standard, but once it started to build, I noticed it stalling and dropping into a funky groove. I could see Leroi Moore (DMB sax) coming from the back...YES!!! He started to groove along with the funkiness that the band was laying down. Then someone brought out his other sax, and I figured he was just switching tones for a while..nope. Trey helped him put both of the saxes in his mouth, and he started playing both at once. Trey thought this was a great idea, and he waved for a second guitar. After a bit of this, Mike got in on the idea and called for another bass. Not to be outdone, Page climbed up onto his bench and started playing his back keys with his feet, the front with his hands. Fishman joined in on the fun with 3 or 4 drumsticks in each hand. At one point Trey was playing with his teeth and his hands, it was so crazy. Mike got Fish's cymbols and started banging them together. Trey then went over to Fish and asked for a couple drumsticks. He put a stick in his teeth, and started hitting Fish's cymbols with it. He had the other in his hand and was banging along, also playing guitar with his free hand. He then moved back to his position and tossed a drumstick into the crowd. He wound up and chucked the other one as far as he could. He then placed two of his guitars on the ground and swung the other around as if he was going to throw it to the moon. This made a really cool feedback sound. The jam wound up and then they broke into Funky Bitch, which seems to be the mandatory guest song. Not that I'm complaining, quite the contrary, this was a really great jam, I just love anything with a saxophone. Trey Hugged Leroi goodbye and he walked off the stage. Slave is IMO one of the best (next to antelope) ways to close a show. This was my first live Slave, so of course it seemed wonderful to me. I'd have to hear it on tape to be sure, but this seemed a bit above average. I couldn't have been happier when I heard the opening notes to Loving Cup. And I had to agree... What a Beautiful Buzz:):)!!!! This being only my 3rd show, it was easily the best I had seen. It was definately above average, and there was a wonderful phishy moment that will probably never be repeated. I'd challenge anyone to find a better tour opener in Phishtory. If this (or the next 2 shows;) are any indicator, we may have another 6/95 or 8/93 on our hands = D!!!! I've babbled for far too long, and I'm going to be late for work. I'll post my thoughts on the next two shows tomorrow... If anyone is still reading..thanks!!! Jeremy Nothin left to do .... :-)=);^D --------------------------------------------------------------- From: benjy eisen Subject: Drinking VA BEACH Gin - 7/21/97 Date: 26 Jul 1997 21:59:10 GMT BathtubGinFiles #27 "BACK ON THE WORM!!" 7/21/97 Virginia Beach Amphitheater GinStats: Set I Total Time: 21:32 This is no regular shot of Gordon's Dry Gin...no, nope, uh-uh...This epic version is pure GINiside! After, ironically, GINseng Sullivan ends, the familiar strum kicks in, amidst some triangle action from Fish and then HOLY SHIT DOES PAGE EVER WIG OUT! Page jumps in at 0:16->0:48. He may be silent in the morning but he's BALLISTIC IN THE BATHTUB! He's found his voice that brings soap-on-a-rope to utter shame, disgrace and embarassment. "Down with dicking around!" Page advocates by immediately going into a straight derivative of Rhapsody In Blue...Page is all for deranged derivative until'... Lyrics Segment: 0:48 Trey sounds pretty glad to be singing about Martinis and Hot Tubs... Page Fill 1: 1:18 -> 1:35 with some hyper-ritalin.kid-ADD-through.the looking.glass takes on Rhapsody In Blue. Okay, okay, this is no longer "through the looking glass," - this is through the chillum glass, kids. And our little "derangment derivative" of Rhapsody In Blue has become a pure derailment of it...and I like it. Fill 2: 2:05 -> 2:21 If the word SPASTIC ever held any musical value, this would be it! Page is it! Page IS spastic! (R.I.B.ing) Warm it up Page - he's about to. Warm it up Page - cause that's what he was born to do FAUCET: 2:37 Trey plays this lick staccato, as is the norm in recent times...botched so minimally that while it isn't a studio take, it goes so smoothly it doesn't matter... SINGING W/THE FAUCET: 3:18 And like the 4/92 versions, Trey is spicing up the scat singing, adding notes in here and there...around 3:40 I swear Trey is saying something, but then again, W-TheFuck-ATSIYEM WATER FROM THE FAUCET: 4:29 immediately staying put in the Classic Faucet Lick Region before Trey takes a dive to the lower regions of the 'doc, and Page continues the Faucet on piano. Fish spices up the rhythm, Trey plays a note-for-note CFL around the 5 min. mark, but with a completely different phrasing and continues to splash up the rhythm of the lick. Rhythm and feel do a complete switcheroo here. Meanwhile, in the secret corridors of the Cactus, Mike funks out some butt-bottom but ever-so-perfect bass notes. Page chimes in happily on the piano. Fish keeps it solid, changing things up a bit now and then, dropping out a little and coming back in periodically. Around 6:09 the jam drops completely, almost like a '96 YEM jam, with Trey spurting out wonderful licks straight from a water-tap-dance, fire hydrant HOSE! At 6:37 Trey hits upon something not too unlike the Bonanaza theme. Whoa there cowboy!!! Some PORNO-FUNKING at the 7:00 mark, Trey continues tinkering with the faucet and related hot-tub jet streams, as he sends us down the slipstream. PORNO-FUNK! At 7:19 we all must laugh as Page, the joker, breaks out this THING. (He starts on it around 7:12 but at 7:19 makes it prominent) Is it a moog? Is it a clav? I don't know what they hell it is but it's fuckin schitzo, and perfect! Loud, obnoxious, uncalled-for and damned is this great! Then he switches to some other sci-fi instrument of abuse...At 7:56 it sounds like Trey is teasing something, but not really. I think he just want to be a rock star, although Stretch maybe this is the Crosstown jam you heard? I'm familiar with MMW's cover of it, but only acquaintances with the real thing, so I can't really say for sure...It sounds more like a possible LLama segue than anything, to me... but who cares, by 8:33 Trey is back in the CFL regions, 8:47 Trey is definately hitting something here...sounds VERY SIMILAR to 12/28/95 pre-Real Me jam!!!!! But somethings a little bit different this time....Somethings gonna happen, CAN YOU FEEL IT CAN YOU FEEEEEL IT? OH BOY! HERE IT IS.... By 9:17 it's an out-and-out DROWNED jam. There's no turning back now! This is the Real Thing baby! This is Drowned! They've opened up such a hose, a hose so wide, so golden, so flowing, that they're now DROWNing in it! I'm getting fuckin' soaked here, that's how golden this hose is! No pansy panty hose here boy, no no -- this is 24K! Around 10:56 the DROWNED JAM is still going strong but finally breaks out of what could actually be the song and Trey veers off by means of some awe-inspiring licks, literally flying out from the chords under them....After the 11 minute mark Page picks up the pace and continues to go completely nuts....go ahead Page, we didn't mean to interrupt...don't just stand there - BUST A MOVE! Page Trey Mike and Fish are mixing so perfectly at 11:56 that they are all four just one, simple, funky, Talking Head...with hair on fire -I swear- eyes wide, nose light...12:21 Page teases something on piano briefly, sounds like it could be the Real Me?...maybe Sea and Sand? Nah...just Drowned offshoots? Fuck - well, it's Who teasing, whatever it is. I know Who...just not What. (Craig, how could you, Who fan, miss this at the show?) There are Real Me references here, but the Drowned wasn't mere referencing - that was a full-throttle drowning, baby! 12:56 Page is on clav, Trey is funking out, Mike is appregiating scales in a funky manor....okay by 13:28 I can see how somebody would call this Real Me teasing...although I wouldn't call it that, but it could easily be a something-jam. Around 13:51 Fish yets out a "woo!" and I'm with you man, I'm with you - "woo!". ("Amen!", right Brian H.?) This wha-hooing continues and Fish is more and more convinced that he knows James Brown and has picked up a bit of legacy...more on this soul thing later though, for now, we are in a funk ass sheick yer booty jam that has Page funking on piano, Mike going all over the place, Trey chording in a PORNO-FUNK FASHION....then STOP-ON-A-DIME pause at 15:37....at the show, Trey then held up four fingers at which time they stopped four times, bam-bam-bam-bam starting at 16:09 and then Trey held up all 14 of his fingers (I told you he has something extra going on) and which time they stop 14 times starting at 16:54 bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam-bam and then RIGHT back in the PORNO-FUNK jam as if nothin' happened, Fishman still faintly yelling out "whoo" and "huh" and "good god"'s from behind his kit. Dogs Stole Craig Delucia but nobody stole shit from Fish...but SHH! I'm ruining the surprise. Around 17:57 Page goes serious sci-fi sweaty-tooth mad. At 18:08 the jam drops for a Trey narrative that goes a little something like this: "Thanks everybody, welcome to the, uh, first show of the North American Tour. It's good to be back!" Then he chants, with fists pumping- "U S A! U S A!" Nobody continues chanting....Fishman says very faintly, "You can do better than that" but the problem at the time was that nobody understood what Trey was chanting...at least no one in my section (Front section, Fish's side). The other problem is that I'm not sure anyone would *want* to be chanting this...at least not at a Phish show. BUT by the way Trey laughs while chanting, it's pure humor and come to think of it, it would have been rather funny to see 20,000 or so phans chanting "U S A U S A." This is not a political arena here, so Amrit sit back down. The mocking is of arena-rock and not patriotica. Anyway Mike funks along underneath, as does Page and Fish, Trey chiming in chords in between sentences -- "Yes, we do have a lot of new material for you - I know most of you probably know that already - but we did start off the show tonight with four new songs. Just so you get it right, and you make sure that you know all the names and titles of the songs, I, uh, I'm gonna tell you right now. The first song was called 'Ghost'. Um, that was that funky thing that went into the long jam. Ah yes, the second song was called 'Dogs Stole Things' so make sure you get that right. That was the, uh, bluesy number about, um, how your pets, your dogs and your cats, you know, during the day they're sleeping and they're feeling good and everything but at night they come and they try to Steal Your Soul. So you gotta watch out for that. Obviously by the way he is playing they have not stolen Fishman's soul yet!" {Trey turns to Mike and Fish, not directly into the mic.}- "What was after that? What'd we play? [back into the mic.] What was after that? Ah yes, song number three was called 'Piper' and that was that one that build way up, um - 'The words were the words I sailed upon' - This is the last time I'm going to say this, by the way, so those of you who are travelling from show to show make sure you remember this 'cause I'm not going to say this again. I'm only saying it 'cause it's the first show of the US tour... And the fourth song new song you, um, which is one of my favorites, is called 'Dirt' and that was the slow one which is about 'I'd like to live beneath the dirt'. And after that you knew the names of the songs. So we're gonna do one more....and then we're gonna take a break. So don't go away...don't do anything I wouldn't do...or you might end up on the back of the WORM! On the back of the WORM!! Okay, so after this next song we'll see you in about fifteen minutes with alot more music. Thanks." "Popcorn" things at 20:15 or so from Fish...mocking the unability of the Dogs to Steal Things...Fish has been doing James Brown throughout this little song introduction section...after which there is another second or so of the funk and then - bam! Jam ends at 21:32. Nanosecond pause before a jammed out Character Zero starts up. WE'RE ON BACK OF THE WORM, BABY!!!! "BATHTUB GIN" REFRAIN: none, leaving this Gin unfinished in a way. Rating: N/A. This Gin is more potent than Grain, perhaps more pleasing to me personally than RUPP ARENA's 11/7 and easily one of the Greats. But, as Craig Delucia said on the car ride home, "You can't rate that Gin you know." And he's right - I can't. Trey talked over the ending jam, making it essentially a background jam for his li'l "Here's the deal" stuff, and then ended without any return to the Faucet whatsoever. Instead this is more of a pure funk jam than a Gin jam, which seriously effects the Gin....where does Gin really end? Does it end in SET II when, in the WOLFMAN'S BROTHER, Page plays the Bathtub Gin riff ("the faucet") again? Does this signify a reprise? Not really, it's just a tease. Does it end before Trey even starts talking? Not really...so where does it end? Does it ever end? Or is it just unfinished? It doesn't really matter... Let's just say that if I were to rate this, it'd be somewhere above a 95 proof (A -> A+). And that ain't bad :):):) (fwiw, only a precious few Gins have attained a rating of this caliber....) But then again, we're BACK ON THE WORM BABY! "And after that, you knew the names of the songs...." Walk with light my friends, Benjy ---------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Uncle Pen <34R6WUX@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Subject: Uncle Pen's Southeast Tour in Review Pt. I: VA Beach Date: 29 Jul 1997 21:39:53 GMT Just for reference: I think this was my 29th show since 4-16-94. I have about 400 hours of pHiSH on tape and I'm a musician so I think I know what I'm talking about. You may disagree. For those who haven't seen a show yet this tour: don't go to a pHiSH show expecting to see a rock concert. They are mellower, darker, goofier, subtler and more insane than the last couple years, but still jamming their asses off. The shows definitely have a different feel than '95 and '96, so be prepared. (Yeah, yeah, I know, pHiSH changes every tour, but this is the most radical change since summer to phall '95, which was actually more of a refinement than much of a change. I digress.) A brief warning for those who might go to a concert in Virginia Beach in the future: watch your ass very carefully if you're not a perfect law-abiding citizen. I have never seen so many uniformed cops, undercover cops and security personnel in a parking lot. Screw 'em, I had a good time...One more thing before the review; I don't have the tapes so this is all from memory and will deal more with impressions than technical details. I Ghost: Very funky, a groove similar to Wolfman's Brother, but doesn't sound like Wolfman. This piece has enormous jam potential, this version must have been around 15 minutes long. I think this is my favorite of the new songs I've heard. An incredible way to open the show. Dogs Stole Things: Bluesy, Trey says it's about animals stealing your soul while you sleep. Just a blues song, but very enjoyable, a good way to calm things down after that wonderful Ghost. Piper: Very confusing. At one point there are 3 or four completely independent vocal lines going at once. Extremely minimalistic, repetitive and hypnotic. (For those unfamiliar with minimalism, check out John Adams's compositions, particularly his violin concerto, and the works of LaMonte Young, particularly The Forever Bad Blues Band which is also microtonal. Very interesting stuff. I digress.) The best word to describe it is exhilarating. Dirt:I have to hear it again. Sounded kinda poppy. Ginseng Sullivan: One of my two favorite bluegrass songs that pHiSH does. Loved it. Bathtun Gin: Big jam #2 of the set. This is the best Gin I have personally seen. They're willing to take the jam absolutely anywhere now. After about ten minutes of some fantastic exploratory jamming they settled into this funky groove and Trey introduced the titles of the first four songs and then segued into--> Character 0: Good Lord, I thought the one on NYE was good. The new refined version is longer, more intense and has higher energy. They could easily take a left turn somewhere in the jam and stretch it out into something more exploratory sometime in the future. Excellent closer. II Wolfman's Brother: I was excited to hear this 'cause I had heard they were experimenting with it in Europe. Trey's loving the funk this tour. The jam stretched out for 10-12 minutes and then they segued beautifully into--> Magilla!: I was stunned. I never expected to see this live. Hopefully they keep playing it. Everybody took a solo, even Fish, and each one was different and interesting in it's own way. Very nice, I like the new subtle approach they're taking. Bowie: The spacey intro was really jammed out. Unfortunately most of the audience was discussing whether it was Maze or Bowie instead of listening. At one point Trey said something, I think it was, "We're trying to jam." I can't be positive, though. The composed section was, as usual, nearly flawless. The jam started very mellow and stayed that way for a long time. Very dark, very subtle. The length of the jam was about the same as in the past. At the end, where Trey is usually playing that closing lick in between the chaos, he was improvising instead, until the last couple times around when he played the usual licks. One of the better Bowie's I've seen. For reference, I think the only other outstanding Bowie I've seen was 11-14-94. Wading (Waiting?) in the Velvet Sea: I've always thought that they didn't play FEFY or If I Could enough. I don't care as long as they keep playing this one. This piece is also rather minimalistic with a slowly building majestic solo from Trey. This is the most painfully beautiful piece of music I've ever seen pHiSH play. The beginning of the solo was an almost direct qoute from the solo in PF's Mother off the Wall. The rest of it was all Trey, and if I ever meet him I will thank him profusely for that transcendent solo. It brought tears to my eyes. I never thought anything that beautiful could also be that painful. Theme: Very different from what I expect form a Theme. Somewhere during the jam Leroi Moore, the sax player with DMB, came out and did a very nice job. If I recall correctly it was a rather bluesy jam. Then things got weird. pHiSH the comedy team replaced pHiSH the band. Everybody, including Leroi, started playing several instruments at once. (I think Trey was mocking himself from when he used to play guitar and percussion at the same time, ala Free.) Trey had three guitars strapped on at once. I'm not sure if they were all plugged in. Leroi had two saxes, Mike had two basses and Page was playing as many of his keyboards at once as he could, even using his feet on his Rhodes piano. Crazy shit, brothers and sisters. Not particularly interesting musically, but very amusing.--> Funky Bitch: Also with Leroi Moore. It was FB with a sax, great as always. Slave: Finally, after 13 years, they have changed Slave somewhat. The composed section is much subtler, less rocky than in the past, and requires careful listening to catch all the nuances. The jam is much slower that in the past and builds to less of a peak. I would say it's more effective, but not as a closer. E:Loving Cup: Phat encore. I wonder what Keith Richards would think if he heard pHiSH playing this song. Probably something like, "Why didn't I do that?" More than I could have asked for an encore. Overall it was a hell of a roller coaster ride. Lots of surprises and mood changes. As a unit they are jamming better than they have since phall '95. Be prepared for a minimalistic approach to a lot of their jams, though. Focus completely on the music, let it hypnotize you, stop thinking, listen carefully and the music will be a lot easier to appreciate and understand. If you got this far, thanks for reading. Feedback is always appreciated. Peace yall, Pen. P.S. If anybody can tell me where to find lyrics for the new songs I would really appreciate it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig D. DeLucia" Subject: VA Beach and Walnut Creek Reviews Date: 24 Jul 1997 12:13:32 GMT I will start by saying that I hope no one has missed me while I have been away from the net this summer...I only have the time to read Rosemarys until school starts again in August. What follows is the opinion of someone who saw his 12th and 13th shows this week and who has heard over 550 hours of Phish. FWIW. As far as my typing goes...I am having a problem uploading my mail to send. All of the apostraphes disappear. So, dont correct my spelling there ;^) General comments first... Im sure you have all read by now that Phish has a new drummer...or, rather, a new incarnation of their old one ;^). I am referring to Fishmans incredibly short haircut and change of usual style of dress. I gotta tell you; he was looking very stylish. Kudos go out to Chris Glushko, president of People for a Louder Mike, for raising this issue to a heightened consciousness. Mike was as clear as I have ever heard him and used his newfound clarity to be simply amazing. He stole the second set of the second show and was remarkable at all other times. The entire band appeared to be having so much fun and they sounded tight, but Mike in particular was smoking. The lot scene was different than any other I have witnessed. Since VA Beach cracks down on vending and shenanigans, there wasnt much going on there. I didnt see a single nirous tank! Walnut Creek was not as lot-less but was still not what I was accustomed to. Maybe the circus has moved on...(wouldnt that be nice). So, Virginia Beach: Set I: Ghost, Dogs Stole Things, Piper, Dirt, Ginseng Sullivan, Bathtub Gin, Character Zero some of the new songs via tapes from Amsterdam but hearing so many of them live was a real treat. Anyway, Ghost is a keeper...a real Type II jam song. For a show opener!! And it is very funky, with some cool solos by Page during the verses themselves. Dont get fooled by the fake ending, btw. This version was around 18 minutes and smoked, moving through different styles and phases of jamming. Very open-ended; needless to say, I like it ;^) Dog Stole Things (which, contrary to sentiment, is not called Noah Stole Things) is a twisted number about how your pets can steal your soul while you sleep. Fun, but nothing musically extraordinary. Makes me wonder what Trey really thinks about Marley, though... ;^) Piper (which I hear showed up on some Europe setlists as Words) was an interesting number but it ended way too quickly. There was a huge musical buildup that was kind of neat, and then the lyrics, and then a mellow jam. The jam just ended, though, after 20 seconds or so. Id like to see this one stretched out. Dirt followed. Excellent song; not a jammer, but a cool groove to dance to with some provocative lyrics. Im waiting to hear a few more versions of this song before forming an opinion on the significance of the lyrics, but it is morbid in a poetic sense. Ginseng was Ginseng; bring back Nellie Cane. ;^) The Gin that followed was insane. We got a standard Ginjam for a while, and then it phased into a hybrid of 60s Motown and 70s disco. REAL fun, and among the most danceable jamming I have ever heard. And Trey started counting with his fingers and signaling to everyone and several sets of stop/start downbeats ensued, with pulsating lights and Trey jumping up and down. Youve got to hear it to understand. As the band jammed on, Trey announced the names of the first four songs and asked those of us going on to Raleigh to spread their names around because Trey had no intention of announcing them again ;^) He also warned us about being on the back of the worm, which damn near made me piss my pants after hearing the Wormtown Jam (thanks to Brian H., who shall remain lastnameless for fear of the grovels he would receive, for spinning the Amsterdam shows for me from his DAT and for naming the Wormtown Jam ;^) from Amsterdam. Anyway, I got to meet Andrew Hitz and we were jogging our memories for similarly amazing 1st set Gins, and I cant think of any. Character Zero closed and slammed my ass to the floor. If you thought the NYE Zero jammed, check out this one. Not as rock and roll as any other Zero I have heard...it didnt get exploratory like a Mikes or Bowie or Tweezer but it did have some interesting jam changes before circling back to a close. Overall, I give the first set a 7.0. Lotsa energy, two monster jams (in the first set!!) and some new songs, as well as a nice Zero. Setbreak was fun, as I got to meet people and see old friends, as well as attempt to spread the word about the Mockingbird Foundation Nothing too interesting to note there, other than the fact that I got screwed out of a pizza after waiting on line forever... Set II: The Wolfman's Brother > Magilla, David Bowie, Wading in the Traffic Light The Wolfman to open was nice; I was interested to see if they would stretch it out like they had been doing. They didnt disappoint. I will leave others to mention the teases they heard, since I didnt catch them. I did catch the SEAMLESS segue into Magilla, though. It was unlike any other Magilla I had heard in that Fishman never picked up the Magilla beat. The band played Magilla while Fishman maintained the slinky beat the they had been jamming on. It was a full Magilla, and excellent. The Bowie that followed can not be described in words. The jam over the hi-hat intro was sweeeeet. I dunno what it was, but it was nice. This same jam, btw, showed up in the Disease jam at Walnut Creek, so I hope someone can name it definitely. It is *very* distinct and way too tight and intricate to be coincidental. Anyway, the Bowie built so slowly and steadily...I think it is the best Type I Bowie I have ever heard. No real teases or surprises; it was an I am going to Kick your Ass with Music Bowie. Wading in the Velvet Sea...anyone who knocks this song will be flamed by me from he to eternity. I can see how some would find it cheesy, but I think it is the most beautiful piece of music I have ever heard Phish perform and the lyrics almost made me cry. Literally. Treys soloing was friggin majestic and had everyone in an emotional state of shock. Does anyone know if Trey or Tom wrote this one? Id be very curious to find out so I can commend the right person ;^) Theme started up and was nice, but the jam started to move into new territory and I thought we were going to get the first-ever Type II Theme. Then, out comes LeRoi Moore of the Dave Matthews Band with a sax and they start jamming away. After four minutes or so, the stagehand brings out a second sax and LeRoi starts playing both of them! Not to be outdone, Trey straps on a second guitar and starts playing two at once! I personally dont think this was planned, as the stagehands were scurrying around to find cords and hook things up. So, then it gets really crazy and Mike straps on a second bass!! Fishman shows up on the big screen and he has four drumsticks in his hands!! Trey straps on a third guitar!! Page climbs on the keyboards and is playing one with his feet, one with his hands, and one with his knees. And, while he is convulsing about, Trey starts hitting Fishmans cymbals with a drumstick while still playing three different guitars!! Then he throws the drumstick out into the crowd, takes off the other two guitars, and starts swinging the Doc like a maniac over his head, like he is going to throw it into the crowd. Everyone else is still jamming, and the amazing part is that it actually doesnt sound too bad!! It never got as ugly to the ear as, say, the 12/15/95 rotation jam. The jam stops and Funky Bitch starts right up, with LeRoi taking solos and rocking the house. So the set is over, right? Nope. LeRoi leaves and we get a mind-numbing, 17 minute Slave that was so teary-eyed that, afterwards, I didnt know if I could drive home. What perfect ear candy to close the set! The Loving Cup encore was a perfect choice and sent me back to Nags Head, where I was staying, with a huge smile on my face. I give the second set a 7.0 as well...every song, with the exception of Magilla, was jammed out, and none disappointed. We saw Wolfmans continue to break new ground, a great segue into Magilla, the first ever deviant Theme, an incredible Bowie, and two jams that almost made me fall down and cry. So, the show gets a 7.0 and a notation that this is probably the best tour-opener ever. Nothing, though, prepared me for the next night. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Hance Subject: VA Beach show 7/21 Date: 22 Jul 1997 09:14:01 -0700 The show last night was a solid tour opener. Although I had heard the 1st set was going to be all new ones, that rumor was proven wrong when they played Ginseng Sullivan after 4 new ones. The crowd seemed to like the new tunes. A good thick Bathtub Gin followed, and Character Zero was the set closer. A NICE Wolfman's Brother opened the 2nd set. I remember a long intro for David Bowie, as we were trying to guess Maze or Bowie. There was a guest sax player later in the set (from DMB), who after a few minutes was brought another sax (a skinnier horn of some type?) and played them both at once. Trey was watching this and really enjoying it, and it seemed as though it was spontaneous when he waved for a stagehand to bring him another guitar. Then after a minute Mike waved for another bass. This got Trey going, and he called for a 3rd guitar. He was going back and forth, basically just hammering on the fretboards and hamming it up, playing one guitar against the mic stand, playing another with his teeth while rubbing one against the mic stand, etc. By the end of this, Mike had picked up Fish's "Cracklin' Rosie" cymbals, (one says "B" and the other "AH") and began playing them in typically unconventional Mike way, holding one flat and bringing the other down onto it. During this Trey was smashing Fish's drumkit cymbals, with 3 guitars still around his neck. After throwing the drumsticks into the audience, Trey pretended to throw one of his guitars into the audience. He was holding it by the neck and spinning it around as if he was preparing to launch it into the 20th row! The guest sax player left and Slave To the Traffic Light ended the set. A nice Loving Cup closed out the evening. I'd say the antics with the sax player and the multiple guitars made this show special, although considering some PHISH shows I've seen it'd probably rate as an average show for them otherwise. -Bill --------------------------------------------------